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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
I managed to receive a small number of robetta tasks on a few PCs and one android Not enough to last very long - and exhausted already - but a surprise to receive any at all #NotEntirelyDeadYet
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Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 25 Apr 25 Posts: 26 Credit: 2,938,518 RAC: 19,348 |
There have been small intermittent batches for about a week now. The latest one is visibly larger. Gotta keep trying to grab whatever we can!
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
There have been small intermittent batches for about a week now. The latest one is visibly larger. Gotta keep trying to grab whatever we can! I took a look at Boincstats and can see you're right - results posted on every one of the last 40 days I guess I'm just saying it's a shock I received some on several machines as I've had nothing at all on any of them for 25 days
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
There have been small intermittent batches for about a week now. The latest one is visibly larger. Gotta keep trying to grab whatever we can! I'm on a roll One single task snuck through on Saturday morning (woohoo) 15 more tasks arrived 30mins ago - but none more to grab Only on my main PC, not on any others, but I'm getting luckier
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Mario W. Send message Joined: 15 Aug 07 Posts: 17 Credit: 292,946 RAC: 0 |
I have posted a While ago, but I don't get any Tasks at all for Rosetta@Home, I know that's not much Information, but I have BOINC Version 8.2.8 (x64) do I need some "Add-ons" or something else? Like additional files where I can change the Config and if so - where do i put them? I got a RXT 4060 Ti GPU and a Ryzen 7 CPU, don't know if that is any Issue? But if i read you PPL from Time to Time get at least 1 Single lonely Task, there should something working... |
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Garrulus glandarius Send message Joined: 25 Apr 25 Posts: 26 Credit: 2,938,518 RAC: 19,348 |
You need mostly luck to try and contact the server in the few minutes (seconds?) when a new batch of a few thousand tasks is dropped.
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
I have posted a While ago, but I don't get any Tasks at all for Rosetta@Home, I have a very similar PC - Ryzen 7 5800X & GTX1660Ti - it's certainly not that. There's a regular flow of very small batches of work - a few thousand per week that get grabbed as soon as they appear - that you have to be very lucky to download any of. Across 3 locations I have 3 PCs, 1 laptop & 2 phones connected to Rosetta and received nothing for 25 days, but I've been a bit luckier over the last week. The last time we had a much bigger batch of consistent work was across November & December, but this happens more and more rarely. Expect to receive nothing at all. Then, when tasks do appear, you'll be a lot happier. It's a more realistic perspective
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
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Bill FSend message Joined: 29 Jan 08 Posts: 64 Credit: 1,847,502 RAC: 731 |
I have posted a While ago, but I don't get any Tasks at all for Rosetta@Home, @Sid You are 100% on target expect little and anything will be just fine... I went the longest time with no tasks on any system and figured that it was a timing issue. When my systems needed CPU work the project had no available tasks and vice verses when the Project has tasks my systems were not asking for work. I finally got two small batches on my Primary system and was surprised about four days later one of my smaller systems got 11 tasks ,,,, I can't remember when it last received a Task. So any work is Good work Bill F Dallas Texas In October 1969 I took an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; There was no expiration date.
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
I have posted a While ago, but I don't get any Tasks at all for Rosetta@Home, Whatever PC I'm on I try a few manual updates through the day and I can't recall finding any tasks for months Weirdly, whenever I look at my other devices, I'm finding they're picking up tasks of their own accord When I look at my credits over the last 60 days across my 5 devices I'm getting something on 6 of the last 10 days, but with 400-800 credits per 12hr task I can see it's only ever bits and pieces. That's just where we are. On the plus side our new work PC got its first Rosetta tasks recently (different User name) and I was pleased to see it getting 1200 credits/task (Ryzen 5 9600X)
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Bill Swisher Send message Joined: 10 Jun 13 Posts: 103 Credit: 66,109,872 RAC: 35,758 |
Whatever PC I'm on I try a few manual updates through the day I run a job in the crontab to do this. If you'd like I could send you the scripts (bash) that I use, in a private message.
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Bill Swisher Send message Joined: 10 Jun 13 Posts: 103 Credit: 66,109,872 RAC: 35,758 |
Whatever PC I'm on I try a few manual updates through the day I run a job in the crontab to do this. If you'd like I could send you the scripts (bash) that I use, in a private message.
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
Whatever PC I'm on I try a few manual updates through the day Thanks Bill, but I only run Windows, I have no idea what a crontab is and otherwise I'm a bit of a dunce when it comes to running scripts etc I can see what it's doing and why it would be a benefit, but it's best not to give people like me the power to do stuff like that I know my limitations... Clicking the Update button whenever I remember is good enough - err... even though it's never worked for me...
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kotenok2000 Send message Joined: 22 Feb 11 Posts: 291 Credit: 543,048 RAC: 0 |
Then put this .bat script in autorun cd c:\Program Files\BOINC :loop TIMEOUT /T 600 boinccmd.exe --project https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/ update goto loop You can change 600(10 minutes) to something else. |
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
Then put this .bat script in autorun I know you all mean well, but I'm not ready for this and I'm already being extremely stupid about something else, using Grok to help me repair some fairly deep-seated Windows corruption, using commands I have literally no understanding of. Earlier this afternoon I came really close to disabling the entirety of my main PC and only escaped from doing so by pure guesswork The only thing worse than an idiot like me is having delusions it'll be better next time if I just keep going - also like me Some very small things are apparently improving and getting fixed, but only at the further risk of taking everything down I'm currently taking a break from being as dumb as this, before my delusions inevitably overtake me again sometime soon Getting a few extra Rosetta tasks is currently far lower on my priority lists Pray for me...
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
Earlier this afternoon I came really close to disabling the entirety of my main PC and only escaped from doing so by pure guesswork On the plus side, for the first time I can recall, I got Rosetta tasks after a manual update. Repeatedly over a few minutes and successfully on my main PC, laptop and one of my 2 phones. One of my 2 remote PCs was also successful - one of them on 2 occasions over the last 8 hours. I'm in luck today. On my PC corruption repairs guided by Grok, I detailed the problems I had during the process and I'm now progressing well using far less aggressive commands, so that seems to be progressing much more safely, both for my PC and for my own sanity/general health. This counts as a good day all round, though I'm getting nothing else done at all. Tbf the problems have been lingering for months and it deserves some dedicated time.
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
Earlier this afternoon I came really close to disabling the entirety of my main PC and only escaped from doing so by pure guesswork Grok and I (best mates as we now are) have agreed that my AppX repository is so corrupted that the only solution is a Windows in-place repair, keeping all files and apps. It's not that Grok wasn't telling me the right things to do, but the corruption is so deep-seated it's impossible for me to fix it, whatever I'm instructed to do. I'm not sufficiently competent nor confident to do this myself and, while my PC currently remains usable, I'll engage the services of a repair guy I've been using for the last 6yrs who I'm confident has the ability and experience to carry it out for me. Also, I'll have someone to blame if it goes wrong. I'm aware of many of the issues with AI generally, but with this process I was actually very impressed with Grok's ability to evaluate and analyse the problem and offer new solutions. When I eventually asked it to take a <pragmatic> view between the <value> of continued attempts to fix it locally, or go the whole hog with the in-place repair, I was impressed with the reasoning given in its reply. I admit I did ask it a leading question, but it had been prepared to disagree with me before and it chose not to, giving more and better reasons than I could for the choice I wanted it to make. This was the first time I'd used AI for anything I didn't already know the answer to and, for very technical questions, and if I was able to provide fulsome and extensive replies and progress reports, I was very confident with the quality (and speed) of its responses. I found the whole exercise very interesting, including when I reported my concern about potential damage I may have been doing while carrying out its instructions, after which it eased back on the aggressiveness of its proposed actions and turned up the level of accompanying explanation for the actions it was asking me to take. If only other repair shops were as considerate! As I said - impressed
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Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2565 Credit: 47,206,982 RAC: 3,485 |
On my PC corruption repairs guided by Grok, I detailed the problems I had during the process and I'm now progressing well using far less aggressive commands, so that seems to be progressing much more safely, both for my PC and for my own sanity/general health. Just remembered this from last July These problems I've had are related to the reason why I was running older versions of WSL etc and why it was impossible to update them It wasn't solely down to this I'm looking to fix it - I've got some quite disturbing fundamental Windows issues - but fixing those will also allow me to fix this and run any form of Docker I do have it, but all my versions are earlier than yours.Trying to run boinc-buda-runner.wsl and I get the error messageSeems that WSL is not active in your pc
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